tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11907160.post113344524198306486..comments2024-03-28T17:16:25.922+10:00Comments on Holties House: Political CorrectnessPeterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15835936655590583808noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11907160.post-15457565126520066642006-12-07T15:32:00.000+10:002006-12-07T15:32:00.000+10:00Some of these are funny because they don't apply t...Some of these are funny because they don't apply to my religion.<br /><a href="http://child-hearing-aids.info">Silver</a>Silver Streakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05107800966963257134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11907160.post-54689390145550922192006-11-18T09:30:00.000+10:002006-11-18T09:30:00.000+10:00Excellent post, succinctly put. If correctness com...Excellent post, succinctly put. If correctness comes from politicians, then it must be b*ll*cks.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.aidtohearing.com">Charlie</a>Charlie Coryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02435440515743214404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11907160.post-1135483855781802072005-12-25T14:10:00.000+10:002005-12-25T14:10:00.000+10:00Hi Peter,Hey - no disprespect intended. You seem ...Hi Peter,<BR/><BR/>Hey - no disprespect intended. You seem a decent fellow. Merry Christmas.<BR/><BR/>No, I'm not in Australia, and don't pretend to know its ways or customs. I especially don't know anything about how Christmas is celebrated there, or not, which is why I didn't comment about it. I AM Christian, very much so, but I had a feeling you wouldn't care. I read your post, and the comments of your readers, and saw that they included Christians and non-Christians. So I didn't think my religion was relevant to the discussion. But I suppose it could be, I guess. Anyway, you brought it up, so there it is.<BR/><BR/>In your reply to me, you say: "Did you bother to read what I said regarding deaf people...my closing on that particular section was 'I bet it wasn't the deaf person who was insisting on the term hearing impaired.' "<BR/><BR/>I did read that section, but what you actually said was "“You can bet it wasn’t the guy with...the hearing aids who voted in the new terminology." That's different - granted, maybe not to you, but that's different. People who can benefit from hearing aids aren't "deaf." When you call everybody with any kind of hearing loss "deaf" you're going to upset a lot of people who already feel misunderstood by the rest of the world. No one likes to be labeled, especially with a label they feel doesn't fit them, and with a label they had no say in choosing. <BR/><BR/>I actually think I will ask a journalist about using so-called "non-PC" language, though the answer may be different in the States than it is in Australia. I don't know. But here, they use the term "deaf" when talking about deaf people, and "hearing impaired" when talking about hearing impaired people. I know newspapers have always used "style guides" for consistency in terminology, and because they have an interest in selling papers and not upsetting their clientele. But your comment intrigues me enough that if I can find a journalist, I will ask.<BR/><BR/>I'm not really hiding - I just don't have a blog or blogger id, so it's not like I chose to "hide" my identity. Should I have? <BR/><BR/>One last thought - and I hesitate to mention it, because I don't want to inject religion into your blog if you don't want to go that direction, out of respect to you. But since you brought it up - From a Christian point of view: wasn't Christ a vocal leader of a "minority group"? Should he have just been content to follow the traditions and customs of the majority? I don't know, maybe he should have; but that doesn't seem like the kind of argument a Christian would make.<BR/><BR/>In all honesty, though, you seem a decent fellow, and I really do think I get where you're coming from.<BR/><BR/>A fan,<BR/><BR/>DaveAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11907160.post-1135245714585729642005-12-22T20:01:00.000+10:002005-12-22T20:01:00.000+10:00Dear Anonymous, wow that's something of a broadsid...Dear Anonymous, wow that's something of a broadside you just fired of in my direction, I wouldn't normally enter into a debate with an unknown/anonymous person but as you seem to be serious about the topic we can have this one, and only one exchange.<BR/>Did you bother to read what I said regarding deaf people? sure I could have gone further and mentioned partially deaf people as well, and I have been involved with a number of them including my Father who was to all intents and purposes DEAF when he was without his hearing aids, anyway my closing on that particular section was, "I bet it wasn't the deaf person who was insisting on the term hearing impaired."<BR/>The facy that the Political correct term even exists is something I find offensive, and I'm sure if you were to ask any journalist whether his/her editor would print an article which did not follow the PC version they would tell you no, so while you as an individual can calmly say "I've never been asked to use PC language" that doesn't make it any less real. <BR/>You just have no idea how relieved I am to hear that you are in favor, (American spelling, do you know anything about what happens in Australia?) of Christmas!! WOW I could care less what you believe in, I noticed though that you stopped short of declaring yourself a Christian, you did not, by the way "POST" this you commented on my post.<BR/>I hardly think it is worth discussing the "if I lived in Iran, China, or India" because I don't, and I'll venture a guess that you don't either, the point is, if I did I would NOT expect them to change their views, laws. or lifestyles just to suit me, in return for my understanding this, I would like the minority groups who come to live here in Australia to reciprocate.<BR/>Have you had the pleasure of preparing an advertisment for staff, or applying for a job recently? do the words, applicants, candidates, team players and the like mean anything to you? The day I am drawn over the coals by a female for offering employment to a female is also a long way off.<BR/>Unlike you, in your closing line, I really don't know where you are coming from or what your point of view is, should you care to go to the trouble of coming out of hiding and/or opening your own blog to express your views please let me know, we can discuss them there.Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15835936655590583808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11907160.post-1135241865930032402005-12-22T18:57:00.000+10:002005-12-22T18:57:00.000+10:00I'm not sure where you're going with this "Deaf" n...I'm not sure where you're going with this "Deaf" not "hearing impaired" thing. People with hearing loss aren't necessarily Deaf. The Deaf can't use hearing aids, since they have no ability to hear sound, amplified or not. A person whose hearing is impaired may be able to make use of hearing aids - in which case he is not Deaf, he's just someone whose hearing is impaired.<BR/><BR/>"Deaf" was never the right term for people with hearing loss. It's not an offensive term. The Deaf have no problem with it - they embrace it, in some cases. The problem is when people who don't understand hearing loss but think they do start lumping "hearing impaired" people into categories that don't make sense. <BR/><BR/>I've never known a Deaf or person with hearing loss who wanted to be called ANYTHING special, except to just be a "person" like the rest of us. They certainly don't insist on "hearing impaired." I don't know who came up with that term, but it wasn't them, and I don't know about you but I can't think of a single example of a time when I was forced to or even asked to use it. So why complain about it?<BR/><BR/>(And I'm all in favor of Christmas, so don't go calling me anti-Christmas for posting this.)<BR/><BR/>But what was this about how if you "lived in Iran, China, or India" you wouldn't expect them to alter their traditions for you? Have you ever actually LIVED there? How about Iran, where you can do *serious* jail time (and we're talking Iranian jails, not some cush little cell in the countryside) for failure to follow Islamic law? What about China, where not only do they not celebrate Christmas, but you can't speak out in support of it, except as a commercial enterpise that might result in increased sales. And don't bother trying to speak about democracy. You might get shot. And India? Sure, you'd be just fine with the traditions there, as long as you fit into the right caste. But don't go trying to break up that system of legalized and incorporated discrimination, or you'll be one of the PC idiot troublemakers you seem to despise.<BR/><BR/>And what was that about not being able to advertise because you need a "female receptionist"? What's the matter with you? If there is even one single legitimate reason you can come up with for wanting to hire a "gender-spcific" employee, then chances are the law doesn't forbid it. But keep advertising for "female receptionists" and you're going to have a lot of "females" explaining exactly what "gender specific" means. <BR/><BR/>Look, I get where you're going in spirit, I think. Nobody likes so-called PC labels. That's because nobody likes to be labeled. So go ahead and rant against PC labels. Just make sure you don't miss the point along the way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11907160.post-1133650769954787672005-12-04T08:59:00.000+10:002005-12-04T08:59:00.000+10:00Hi all, surprise surprise, I'm glad to see I'm not...Hi all, surprise surprise, I'm glad to see I'm not alone in my thinking on PC and how it has been used to undermine our Christmas celebrations.Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15835936655590583808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11907160.post-1133636742662369042005-12-04T05:05:00.000+10:002005-12-04T05:05:00.000+10:00*round of applause* Most excellent! I'm behind you...*round of applause* Most excellent! I'm behind you 100%. <BR/><BR/>I don't get hung up on being politically correct...I'll call it like I see it and if that makes me a bad person, oh-freakin'-well. :)Shannon akaMontyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00379928121511251819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11907160.post-1133566645332617922005-12-03T09:37:00.000+10:002005-12-03T09:37:00.000+10:00"...learn our language." You gotta be kidding. W..."...learn our language." You gotta be kidding. What would anybody ever do with, for instance, a billabong?<BR/><BR/>Hoss 1, Matey 0OldHorsetailSnakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00865830344885164689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11907160.post-1133553993275626372005-12-03T06:06:00.000+10:002005-12-03T06:06:00.000+10:00Hey! I'm a Unitarian. You left us out. That's no...Hey! I'm a Unitarian. You left us out. That's not PC.<BR/><BR/>Unitarians say, WHAT IS THIS SHIT?<BR/><BR/>I was raised in a Christian home in a Christian church that DOES NOT celebrate Christmas. Why? Because the bible never once says anything about celebrating the BIRTH of Christ. <BR/><BR/>Even thou I no longer consider myself to be a Christian, I sure do celebrate Christmas! Love it. I agree with much of what you say. <BR/><BR/>But not all. I do think we have to INCLUDE people. So I don't like hearing, "Peace on Earth, goodwill to MEN." It's easy enough to say, "Peace on Earth, goodwill to all."TLPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02837578489728318423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11907160.post-1133542682262810712005-12-03T02:58:00.000+10:002005-12-03T02:58:00.000+10:00Hey, guess what?! It's my blog's birthday tomorrow...Hey, guess what?! It's my blog's birthday tomorrow. I'll be 1 year old. Please stop by for a slice of cake. :)<BR/>Have a great weekend!<BR/>Lois LaneLois Lanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03948217674898022349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11907160.post-1133534377755276562005-12-03T00:39:00.000+10:002005-12-03T00:39:00.000+10:00Way to go! Good blog man. So many bad things hap...Way to go! Good blog man. So many bad things happen in the name of religion that we forget the good that god and faith can bring into our homes. <BR/><BR/>I've been waiting for your promised rant, but it was worth it.Big Dave Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18363712781308133633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11907160.post-1133529401796410332005-12-02T23:16:00.000+10:002005-12-02T23:16:00.000+10:00When I was a child, hearing impaired people who co...When I was a child, hearing impaired people who could not speak were referred to as deaf and dumb. That was cruel, as most of them were not dumb at all. This is the only phrase that has been supplanted by the more proper term<BR/>"deaf mute". To me, this is the only "PC" phrase with which I agree (at least it is the only one I can think of this morning).kenjuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07342414519714356343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11907160.post-1133518727121486262005-12-02T20:18:00.000+10:002005-12-02T20:18:00.000+10:00Hi Peter, I hope you feel betterafter getting that...Hi Peter, I hope you feel better<BR/>after getting that off your chest.<BR/>Seems like the whole world has gone crazy at times. They seem to e getting back to former days.<BR/>We can have a nativity scene in Myers window. And schools && Kinders can have Christmas plays<BR/>etc. At least in Vistoria this year. Only good thing Bracks has<BR/>done. Still talk about painting some trees green for the Games!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11907160.post-1133493013184896542005-12-02T13:10:00.000+10:002005-12-02T13:10:00.000+10:00HEAR HEAR! A big ol pat on the back for you my fri...HEAR HEAR! A big ol pat on the back for you my friend.<BR/>MERRY CHRISTMAS!!Cliffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12676389902079486865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11907160.post-1133487809119541312005-12-02T11:43:00.000+10:002005-12-02T11:43:00.000+10:00I like the burn in hell... Merry Christmas part.PC...I like the burn in hell... Merry Christmas part.<BR/>PC stuff drives me nuts too!! Enough is enough!!Jamie Dawnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11036600186909466411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11907160.post-1133467586359288362005-12-02T06:06:00.000+10:002005-12-02T06:06:00.000+10:00Amen. Oops, is it ok to say that? ;)Amen. Oops, is it ok to say that? ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11907160.post-1133463543248346072005-12-02T04:59:00.000+10:002005-12-02T04:59:00.000+10:00I'm so with you on this. Very funny list too!Lois ...I'm so with you on this. Very funny list too!<BR/>Lois LaneLois Lanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03948217674898022349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11907160.post-1133462632642811322005-12-02T04:43:00.000+10:002005-12-02T04:43:00.000+10:00also, 'horizontally challenged' for fat! and discl...also, 'horizontally challenged' for fat! and disclaimers with each wise crackPreronahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08873055320080221754noreply@blogger.com