"In the beginning"


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Thursday, November 16, 2006


Update; It's Meow's birthday, I'm sure she would like a visit!!

This seemed a reasonable fit with the post for today.


Now lets not get too carried away by this headline, sure basically
what is reported here is true… BUT… it happened in August 2005 after
the tube bombings in
London in July 2005.

Not a whole hell of a lot has come from it since then.

My story is taken from an email that pops up from time to time and
presumably originated in the
USA, if you want to know any more about it Google Snopes.com, then “Muslims out of Australia.”

My contributions are in red so you can see I’m not taking credit for the whole thing.

I wish the leaders of our country would take a stand like Australia. Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.

A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown.

Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state and its laws were made by parliament. "If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you," he said on national television.

"I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia, one the Australian law and another the Islamic law, that is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then, that's a better option," Costello said.

Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the other country. Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off". "Basically, people who don't want to be Australians, and they don't want to live by Australian values and understand them, well then they can basically clear off," he said. Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques.



IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians.

However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the "politically correct" crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others. I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to Australia.

However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand. This idea of Australia being a multicultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle. This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom. We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, learn the language!

Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push but a fact because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, Because God is part of our culture.

We will accept your beliefs and will not question why, all we ask is that you accept ours and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us. If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like " A Fair Go", then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. By all means keep your culture but do not force it on others.

This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, "THE RIGHT TO LEAVE". If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.

Pretty easy really, when you think about it. I figure if we all keep passing this to our friends (and enemies) it will also, sooner or later get back to the complainers, lets all try, please.

Hell yes… who in the real world whether it be in Australia, Canada or the USA wouldn’t love to see things as well defined and simple as that, life though usually isn’t that straight forward, especially now with this bloody politically correct rubbish interfering with common sense.

We live in a multi-cultural society, here in Australia the main wave of “New Australians” (as we old Australians referred to our immigrants) started in the 1950s as the displaced people of Europe sought a new place to live clear of the ravages of World War 2.

There was certainly some friction at times and whole communities of Greek, Italian, German and an undefined people we called Balts? from the Baltic states? bordered by Russia and Poland, there certainly would have been a good reason to want to immigrate.

I’m pretty sure these Balts came from a much wider area than just the Baltic States though and probably included Poles, Croatians, Hungarians, Serbs and who knows what others, what it boils down to though after a couple of decades most of these people integrated into our society enriching it as that happened.

We have never come up against a religious difference as great as we have with the current crop of Muslims though, we have had Muslims in Australia for many years but it is only of late that the hatred has surfaced.

This is fueled by the Politically Correct people who advocate the removal of Christian symbols lest we offend Muslims and other religious groups, to the ridiculous degree that we take Christ out of Christmas and use the stupid Happy Holiday instead of Happy Christmas.

I am not a religious man, in fact some of my family despair of me gaining entry into even Hell I think, however I hold very firmly to the view that our society is pretty much a Christian society so the majority should set the rules, as long as we practice the same restraint we ask of others and not try to force feed our beliefs on them.

I think there is also a bit of the Aussie “who do you think you’re telling what to do” attitude too, as an example I used to always use “Xmas” instead of Christmas, that is until the suggestion came that Christmas was offensive to some, bloody hell… I use nothing but Christmas now.

That's what I will refer to as salvo number two fired across the bows of those that have different ideas, I'm sure there will be more to follow... from both sides... but until then.



Lee said...

Hear! Hear! Peter, I couldn't have said it better myself! I don't mind you sharing the 'drum' with me, at all! :)

You know my thoughts on this matter...I'm glad you are beating the same tune!

Oh...and a Merry Christmas to you, too! ;)

Merle said...

Hi Peter ~ Great post about what of
a lot of us are thinking. Take care,

kenju said...

I have read that before, Peter, and I agree with your comments. Political correctness has gone too far!

Thanks for the visit; yes, it is a long way to go for a cake, but worth every calorie!!

Boo said...

I sooo agree. If I went to Italy to live I would expect to learn the Italian language. If I went to Baghdad to live I would expect to follow their same laws and rules. If I don't like the laws and rules and can't learn the language then why am I going?????
I think I should be able to maintain my culture, the pieces of it that are me and a comfort to me but I certainly wouldn't expect the country to conform to me.

Merry Christmas and God Bless Australia.

JunieRose2005 said...

Merry,merry CHRISTMAS, Peter!

I am with you 100% on this!


Anonymous said...

Good on you, Peter. This should be mandatory reading for anyone that has a brain to think with.

LZ Blogger said...

Peter ~ Bravo for the Aussie's (and even you TOO my friend!) Too bad the USA is on the PC trip with a lot of GUILT for our past sins! It is CHRISTMAS for me TOO! SPOT ON! ~ jb///
P.S. I rode that COG train in the Blue Mountains too! Took the cable car ride down and the cog train back up the canyon.

Walker said...

I agree for the most part especially with the immigrants that come to our countries.
They came here for a better life not to change our way of thinking and if its that they want then they can go back but in the same breath we also have to tread with caution because when we are talking about those that were born in our countries then they are equal to all native country men and if we start imposing hopw they should think we because what we condem.
I think being politically correct is stupid.
I think we should all recognize who we are and respect what others are like.
We can't ask a people to celebrate Christmas if its not their holiday and there is no way we are going to change Chrismas for someone else.
The problem with being politically correct is the plotical part.
Most people I know here is Canada say Merry Chrismas to Christians and Happy Hanukkah Jewish people and what not.
I have Muslims say Merry Christmas to me and I return the greating during Ramadan.
Its respect.
Look at why the world is shit, not becausxe of the little guy but because of the politicians and clerics.
The little guy wants to be treated equally and with respect.
Wouldn't you?
I say line up all politicians and clerics against the wall and shoot them down like mad dogs and see how happy the world could be :)
umm can I throw lawyers in there to?

Meow said...

Yay, Peter ... welll said, and i totally agree.
Happy Christmas to you too.
Thanks for linking me, and wishing me a happy birthday ... it's been a nice one so far. The sun is shining, the birds are singing, I'm going to Bonnie Doon (think ... Michael Caton in The Castle) ... what more could I want.
Have a great weekend.
Take care, Meow

Meow said...

Ooooh, meant to mention. Yesterday when I was drafting my post, a box came up telling me I could convert to Beta Blogger. I didn't at this stage, but now when I go into dashboard, the box is gone !!! Maybe they don't want me now !! I guess it will come back again sometime !!! Might give it a go next week, who knows !!!
See ya, Meow

Puss-in-Boots said...

Well said, Peter! I have no quarrel with whoever comes from wherever to live in Australia. But - when in Rome, etc. I have no wish to live under Sharia law but I can respect that law, but not in Australia and applied to me!

No, I'm not going to get on my soapbox today, but I, too, wish you a very merry CHRISTMAS!

Theresa said...

Wonderful post Peter! I agree! Merry Christmas to you too! :)

UKBob said...

Hey Peter how you doing? You're spot on there with what you just said mate. We have the same thing here in the UK, it's those PC lot you know what with all this Christmas thing and going easy on theifs and such like. When we were kids we played cops and robbers just for fun, now the grown ups PLAY and cops and robbers and earn a living at it! By the way Peter, I can't believe you're 70, is that an old piccy in your profile?